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RobynBarstad · Jun 25, 2008, 07:01 PM // 19:01

Hello

I am a new hunter coming over from WoW and I would like it if someone could provide me with a leveling build. Like, what to put points in first and what skills to use. I currently am puting points in marks and exp.

I have figured out that I should be using a Recurve Bow as opposed to the others. If I am wrong please let me know. And once I get a really nice bow whats more important - silencing, poisoning, or whatever else I can put on it.

I am also having trouble finding a pet too. I am playing the nightfall campaign and also have the eye of the north to play once I am done with nightfall. I am currently a level 9.

Future thanks to the people who post here with tips

Robyn

Kerwyn Nasilan · Jun 25, 2008, 07:10 PM // 19:10

You can change skills and attribute points when ever. So run what ever you want. Just have fun with the game. the max level is 20 and easy to reach.

Tyla · Jun 25, 2008, 07:10 PM // 19:10

Skills that should be stapled to your bar (As a bow Ranger anyway) are skills like [[distracting shot], which is among the most powerful skills in the game.

The basic Ranger bar is usually:

[magebane shot] / [burning arrow] / [broad head arrow] / [crippling shot][distracting shot][savage shot][apply poison][natural stride][troll unguent][mending touch][resurrection signet]
12+1+1 Expertise, 9+1 Marksmanship and Wilderness Survival and 3 Protection Prayers.

However, if you want a pet, I would advise you to remove Troll Unguent and Res Sig. Although I wouldn't say take a pet as they are really quite bad. Do it if you want though.

As for important bow mods: You should really have all of each and a vampiric flatbow, but I wouldn't bother until you accumilate a bit of cash.

You should also check the Ranger guide stickied at the top of this forum.

Konig Des Todes · Jun 25, 2008, 07:28 PM // 19:28

@Tyla: Broad Head Arrow is Factions, the OP clearly states he only has NF and EN, unless BHR is in EN (which I don't think it is) then that's rather worthless.

Here are some builds I run on my Ranger/Heroes (all work fine)

[Hunter of Beasts;OgkTY3rm1xxoaOM1SjzqczIvBA]
[Hunter of Interruption;OgMTcXsm1xVqaeMHGYTxx3ETAA]
[Hunter of Poison;OgATcXsm1xy0bx1HGd7sp44bAA]

The poison build works really fine in overall places (try to avoid the apply poison in Undead areas, pointless), and you can use every skill. So that can be a basic build you can use if you want.

The Beast Master and Interruption builds you may not be able to run due to the elite, (and that rez can be replaced by others, just saying to lessen possible flames on my builds

) but for those builds, you can probably find another skill to replace them. And these are just suggestions to get you started with what you want to run.

As for upgrades on you bow, the "best" depends on what build you use. If you use a Dazing build, use Silencing, if you use a poison build, use Poisonous, etc etc.

Orange Milk · Jun 25, 2008, 07:53 PM // 19:53

Azazel, did you just tell Tyla NOT to recoment skills that are not core/NF and then turn around and recomend skills that are from other campaines and not core? gg. And don't use Sig of Return when you have no points in Leadership, or ever for that matter, resurrect is coverd with fail aswell.

First off, no "hunters" in Guild Wars, they are Rangers. I prefer above all bows a Posion Recurve, but each situation is diffeent so havein many different bows is a good thing. Except a Fatbow, they are bad, sure they fire fast but later the next day when the arrow finnaly lands it tends to miss it's target, unless you Buff it up With [skill]Read the Wind[/skill]

Crip shot is not all that usefull in PvE, So use Burning Arrow in the build Tyla displayed, though I prefer to not use Nautral Stride, I'd rather have Lightning Reflexes, and it's core too.

Konig Des Todes · Jun 25, 2008, 09:32 PM // 21:32

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Originally Posted by Orange Milk

Azazel, did you just tell Tyla NOT to recoment skills that are not core/NF and then turn around and recomend skills that are from other campaines and not core? gg. And don't use Sig of Return when you have no points in Leadership, or ever for that matter, resurrect is coverd with fail aswell.

First off, no "hunters" in Guild Wars, they are Rangers. I prefer above all bows a Posion Recurve, but each situation is diffeent so havein many different bows is a good thing. Except a Fatbow, they are bad, sure they fire fast but later the next day when the arrow finnaly lands it tends to miss it's target, unless you Buff it up With [skill]Read the Wind[/skill]

Crip shot is not all that usefull in PvE, So use Burning Arrow in the build Tyla displayed, though I prefer to not use Nautral Stride, I'd rather have Lightning Reflexes, and it's core too.

First off, I just posted builds I use, and I did say that they might not be usable due to the skills (didn't bother looking at which campaign they were actually from). Second, my term for hunter is just how I name my builds, yes they are rangers, but same concept as a "hunter"

, and no I didn't get that idea from WoW or whatever, although the op did.

Orange Milk · Jun 26, 2008, 05:39 PM // 17:39

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin
First off, I just posted builds I use, and I did say that they might not be usable due to the skills (didn't bother looking at which campaign they were actually from).

Well maybe that's the same thing Tyla did.

And my "hunter" coment was didected at the OP as you suggested.

Tyla · Jun 26, 2008, 06:20 PM // 18:20

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

@Tyla: Broad Head Arrow is Factions, the OP clearly states he only has NF and EN, unless BHR is in EN (which I don't think it is) then that's rather worthless.

Notice those forward slashes, which usually stand for the word "or".

I'm simply noting the good choices encase this person eventually buys campaigns. What's wrong with that now?

As for your builds, there are 3 skills from Factions which you told me not to recommend, so why did you say that? And 2 of them lack Distracting Shot.

Please cut the crap.

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Originally Posted by Orange Milk

Crip shot is not all that usefull in PvE, So use Burning Arrow in the build Tyla displayed, though I prefer to not use Nautral Stride, I'd rather have Lightning Reflexes, and it's core too.

I agree completely. I should've mentioned that in my post.

Just adding on to your post a little, Cripshot isn't good in PvE because snares in general are less useful, and if you need one there are usually better alternatives. As for Lightning Reflexes, a block stance is good, and yes, Natural Stride isn't as useful in PvE compared because you shouldn't need the blocking as much since you're against enemies that A: Rarely target you and B: Don't coordinate as good as real players, although that's PvP.

As for PvE, I would really prefer Volley over a preperation. Although, I would also prefer Sloth Hunter's in the case of not having Splinter Weapon.

Infact, this build should shine a little...

[burning arrow][distracting shot][savage shot][sloth hunter's shot][apply [email protected]][lightning reflexes][mending touch][resurrection signet]
12+1+1 Expertise 11+1 Marksmanship 6+1 Wilderness Survival

Also, tab spacing is good for spreading poison around the place. Although a PvP thing, I would even use it in PvE because it's awesome.

Don't forget to watch animations for interrupting aswell, battlefield awareness is something every player should practice.

Rhamia Darigaz · Jun 26, 2008, 10:10 PM // 22:10

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

unless BHR is in EN (which I don't think it is)

just as a clarification, even if bha was in gwen he still wouldn't be able to cap it unless he had factions

SnipiousMax · Jun 27, 2008, 08:39 PM // 20:39

Robyn I would HIGHLY and HEARTILY suggest starting with the guide found here:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10261054

Celestial Beaver did a great job not only covering the basics, but going indepth about which builds you could use with only certain campaigns. It is a great reference point and a definate must read.

RobynBarstad · Jun 28, 2008, 08:29 PM // 20:29

Thanks for all the useful information guys

So after reading the "ranger" guide I figured out that it's really good to interrupt alot. Do you guys interrupt alot?

Should I try to upgrade my armor as soon as possible or is it beneficial to just go along with the flow and upgrade it to the max gear later on? Do you get better drops with lesser gear?

I have a new bow

! It's a Gold Bow and has these stats:

Piercing 15-28
Health +30
Arm Pen 20%
12% dmg when health is above 50%

From your experience with the game is this a good bow to roll with? And if I do start interrupting mobs should I get a silence bow or stick with the armor pen? I am currently looking for a decent poison bow also which I might get from one of the helpful people in my new guild.

Once again thnx alot for all your help and contributions so far

This game rocks!

-Oh btw my toon is a level 13 now!

Bowstring Badass · Jun 28, 2008, 09:17 PM // 21:17

Good bow for a starter I guess. But the 12%^50 can be maxed to 15%^50.

The Meth · Jun 28, 2008, 10:47 PM // 22:47

Rather then us throw builds at you that you wont be able to use till 2/3rds into the game or after you buy another campaign, why don't you tell us what you are using now and we can make suggestions for it?

The bow you have is decent enough, the 12% damage bonus could be slightly better at 15%, and the 20% armor penetration isn't the best mod but it is decent for a general purpose ranger who can't switch between multiple perfect weapons to use the best one for each situation. For interrupting Silence wont help at all, silence increases the length of daze conditions you inflict but it wont help straight up interrupts. For interrupting its important to use a recurve bow, as their arrows are the fastest and therefore you have a better chance of hitting the target before the skill is done casting.

You won't get better drops by wearing lesser armor, but if are surviving just fine with what you have now there isn't anything wrong with saving up. Rangers being in the back and having higher base armor then casters means that you won't be too disadvantaged if you skimp a little on armor in the beginning, just make sure you get max armor quickly as soon as you get to the mainland. Max armor is buyable at Consulate Docks.

Also, since you are in nightfall you have access to heroes. You might want to glance over at the hero forums and the profession specific forums to get an idea of good builds for heroes. A good build on them can help just as much as a good one on you.

RobynBarstad · Jul 02, 2008, 06:50 AM // 06:50

I am currently a level 16(almost 17). I have 9+1+1 in expertise, 11+1 in Marks, and 5 in Wilderness Survival right now. Here how my skills go:
1- Sloth Hunters Shot
2-Power Shot
3- Screaming Shot
4- Rapid Fire
5- Kindle Arrows
6- Storm Chaser
7- Troll Unguent
8- Rez Signet(do i really even need this?)

I am playing Nightfall campaign and am still on the starting island and don't know where to pick up better skills.

SnipiousMax · Jul 02, 2008, 01:26 PM // 13:26

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Originally Posted by RobynBarstad

I am currently a level 16(almost 17). I have 9+1+1 in expertise, 11+1 in Marks, and 5 in Wilderness Survival right now. Here how my skills go:
1- Sloth Hunters Shot
2-Power Shot
3- Screaming Shot
4- Rapid Fire
5- Kindle Arrows
6- Storm Chaser
7- Troll Unguent
8- Rez Signet(do i really even need this?)

I am playing Nightfall campaign and am still on the starting island and don't know where to pick up better skills.

A couple of quick things to point out:

*Replace powershot with an interrupt [distracting shot]
*Don't use both rapid fire AND kindle arrows, they don't stack so it's best to focus on one.
*Storm Chaser is alright, but I'd look into using something like [Natural Stride] as soon as it's availible.

It's usually a good idea to bring a rez sig. You don't use it much on starter Island, but it does get more difficult as you go.

Super Igor · Jul 02, 2008, 01:51 PM // 13:51

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

@[Hunter of Beasts;OgkTY3rm1xxoaOM1SjzqczIvBA]
[Hunter of Interruption;OgMTcXsm1xVqaeMHGYTxx3ETAA]
[Hunter of Poison;OgATcXsm1xy0bx1HGd7sp44bAA]

And wow these builds are just horribad, just horribad, please dont confuse the op with things that do not work, I mean resurrect? R/P with no spear? Just bars packed with random skills cuz you dont know any obviosly.

The most normal ranger bar is always this:
[optional][savage shot][distracting shot][apply poison][natural stride][troll unguent][mending touch][rebirth]/[resurrection signet], rebirth should be better in pve cuz you dont die much anyway and can run away pretty easy to waste your team's time ressing everyone afterwards, but taking rez is not cool.

And thats that, take it and dont bother with random shite.

Proud Elitist · Jul 03, 2008, 05:49 AM // 05:49

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Originally Posted by RobynBarstad

Hello

I am a new hunter coming over from WoW and I would like it if someone could provide me with a leveling build. Like, what to put points in first and what skills to use. I currently am puting points in marks and exp.

In a team, your job is not damage since other classes can do it better. (However you can run a Barrage build but generally they are worse than the advice that I'm going to give you) Your main role in a team is disruption. It offers more to your team than what you can do with a Barrage build and is much less brain-dead activity. Disruption prevents damage. It also prevents defenses from going up. Generally speaking, it makes dealing damage and controlling damage easier; which is needed. It is also more reliable than Barrage if you have the personal skills necessary.

You should usually have your attribute spread to be something like:
14 expertise
10 wilderness
10 marksmanship

A good build to start out with would be:

[Burning Arrow][Savage Shot][Distracting Shot][Apply Poison][Natural Stride][Mending Touch][Troll Unguent][Resurrection Signet]

Obviously this means that it helps to start in Nightfall.

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I have figured out that I should be using a Recurve Bow as opposed to the others. If I am wrong please let me know. And once I get a really nice bow whats more important - silencing, poisoning, or whatever else I can put on it.

Use a Recurve bow for general purpose use. Use a Longbow for taking care of things that are outside your aggro range (Things like interrupt long casting, 2 seconds and up, skills) and for pulling. Flatbows really arn't needed in PvE. Shortbows are nice to deal with close range targets (their faster refire makes you more mobile than if you were using a Recurve Bow) but are not needed.

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I am also having trouble finding a pet too. I am playing the nightfall campaign and also have the eye of the north to play once I am done with nightfall. I am currently a level 9.

Don't deal with pets since they are a waste of time. You can get one but they are only a gimmick within the game.

horseradish · Jul 03, 2008, 07:16 AM // 07:16

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Originally Posted by RobynBarstad

And once I get a really nice bow whats more important - silencing, poisoning, or whatever else I can put on it.

It depends on your build, but it is smart to have two recurve bows. One with a Silencing mod, and the other for poison.

If you end up PvPing, bring a crippling mod for [Crippling Shot].